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You Can Learn Only If you Do Not Know
Can There Be complete Freedom Of Thought
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Does learning require thinking, or only awareness?- To be aware is to be conscious, to be in relationship with what you observeoutwardly and also our inward reactions.- Awareness reveals that I have a conclusion from which I act, which prevents thefree flow of energy.- You see that you have many opinions and conclusions.- You don''t know whyyou have them or how to be free of them. Start with not knowing.- Knowledge is in the past whilst learning is vital, in the present.- In learning, which is a constant movement, can opinion and conclusion ever beformed?- Can thought be slowed down naturally? In learning about the function ofthought, slowing down takes place without control or effort.-Can the mind empty itself without effort?-Do LSD and other drugs slow down the mind?
Action of intelligence
Brockwood Park 1972 - Public Discussion 2
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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"The action of intelligence - 14 September 1972 • Q: Why don’t we see the division between the observer and the observed?• How does the division come about which causes conflict and misery?• Are we aware that we are fragmented? Why does contradiction exist?• Can we have a mind that is not fragmented and contradictory?• Can the mind live without comparison?• The brain sees that nationalities and religious divisions are disastrous forhuman relationship. What is the capacity that makes the brain see this? Is thisawareness? Is this intelligence?• What is the relationship of intelligence to all that is taking place?• Intelligence operating has its own action. When there is that intelligence, thereis sanity.• Is intelligence operating in you?"
Complete freedom from thought
Brockwood Park 1972 Public Talk 1
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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"Complete freedom from thought - 9 September 1972• Learning is instant perception and action. What place has thought in learning?• To learn about freedom must thought be completely silent? Does insight intofreedom take time?• Can thinking, however rational, bring about a psychological revolution in us?• Is thought always conditioned? Is freedom the non-existence of thought?• My very being is related to thought. If you want to see something new, what doyou do?• To have insight, let go of the old and listen.• Learning is not memorizing.• Q: Is feeling another way of thinking?• Q: Isn’t the need to love and be loved essential?• Needing love is love of self."
If I don't change now what will the future be?
Brockwood Park 1972 Public Talk 1
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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"If I don’t change now what will the future be? - 10 September 1972• Is thought responsible for fragmentation?• Does fragmentation have its own activity?• What is the energy that perceives the total and doesn’t live in fragmentation?• Does comparison bring about fear and pleasure?• Is thought seeking security in belief and dogma?• Can the mind learn instantly all the content of the unconscious in which thereare deep, secret fears?• Does analysis imply time and division? Is consciousness separate from itscontent?• To get at the root of fear means learning about not being.• Q: What about guilt?"
If Freedom is Responsibility, How do I act?
Brockwood Park 1972 - Public Talk 3
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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"If freedom is responsibility, how do I act? - 16 September 1972• Q: What is the action that will be a total response to the world around us?• Can one respond totally without learning about love and death in relation todaily life?• Do we live, or do we tolerate living?• Do we live according to ideas and conclusions based on belief, dogma andmemory?• Is there an action which dissipates all images?• Is love relationship in which there is no image? Is disorder relationship in whichthere is the image?• Can a mind seeking comfort learn about death?• Find out whether death is something to be avoided or to be lived with naturally. • Can the mind free itself from the known?• Q: What relationship has literature, beauty and art to our daily life?• Q: Were you conditioned by the Masters?• Q: Can one help someone in distress?"
To come upon the new, thought must be quiet
Brockwood Park 1972 - Public Talk 4
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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" To come upon the new, thought must be quiet - 17 September 1972 • If one is serious, one must learn for oneself if there is such a thing as the im measurable.• Thought cannot find the immeasurable because thought is measurement and time.• Can thought, realizing its limitations, be quiet?• Can the mind without effort see its content clearly, and the limitation, lack ofspace and time-binding quality of its consciousness?• When you say, ‘I do not know,’ does the content have importance?• There are various systems of meditation, gadgets, yoga, to make the mindquiet. These are unimportant.• Is truth the very perception of the false?• When the mind has perceived the truth of something, what is time?• Is there a different dimension which thought cannot touch?"
To perceive 'what is' is the basis of truth
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 - Public Talk 1
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
Ljudbok
Engelska, 2015
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"To perceive ‘what is’ is the basis of truth - 7 February 1971• Wherethereisdivisiontheremustbeconflict.Amindinconflictmustinevitablybe distorted and therefore it cannot possibly see clearly what is truth.• We need a total change, a deep revolution, psychological revolution, the inwardrevolution, without which you cannot possibly create a new society.• Is it possible to observe, to perceive without the observer?• How are images formed? Can the image-building come to an end?• Knowledge is absolutely necessary. Is it possible that knowledge, which thebrain has accumulated through centuries, does not interfere with relationship?"
Direct perception is freedom
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 - Public Talk 2
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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". Direct perception is freedom - 10 February 1971• Can the mind living in this world ever be free, not only superficially butprofoundly, at the very root of its existence?• ‘Freedom from’ is an abstraction, but freedom in observing ‘what is’ and goingbeyond it is actual freedom.How do I observe greed? Do I observe it as an outsider looking in or do I observe it without the observer?Without the mind being free you cannot live in order.Q: Three years have passed; I have no energy to be aware of my reactions. Q: Can we seek God through observation?"
Love is that quality of mind in which there is no division
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 - Public Talk 3
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
Ljudbok
Engelska, 2015
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"Love is that quality of mind in which there is no division - 14 February 1971• To live in this world with intelligence, in spite of all the complications.• Is it possible to be free of fear, not only the superficial fear in relationship butthe deep-rooted fear?• Thought nourishes, sustains and gives continuity to fear and pleasure.• When you are learning, your mind is awake.• Truth isn’t second-hand; you can’t get it through a guru, a book, you have tolearn about it. The beauty of learning is that you don’t know what truth is.• What is love?• A man who has not love in his heart, but the things made by thought, will makea monstrous world, will construct a society that is totally immoral. To find out,you must undo everything that you have done.• What does it mean to die?"
mind in meditation is concerned only with meditation, not with the meditator.
Bombay (Mumbai) 1971 - Public Talk 4
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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"A mind in meditation is concerned only with meditation, not with the meditator - 17 February 1971• If you can put aside your favourite systems, if you can understand thatconcentration is merely a resistance and therefore constant conflict and wastage of energy, then we can find out for ourselves what is necessary for a mind that is in a state of meditation.• To learn about oneself, a living thing, you have to watch, learn anew each minute.• What is will?• Consciousness is heritage, the result of time. Consciousness is the content ofitself, which is time, sorrow, confusion, misery. Intelligence has no heritage.• What is a mind that is completely silent?• Q: How does one cope with the extraordinary energy that human beings have?"
Can the mind be free?
Berkeley 1969 - Public Talk 1
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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Engelska, 2015
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"Can the mind be free? - 3 February 1969• The society in which we live is the result of our psychological state. • Where there is fear there is aggression.• For most of us, freedom is something that we don’t want.• Inaction is total action.• What is the machinery that builds images?Questions from the audience followed the talk."
Why Do We Live With Stress
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
Ljudbok
Engelska, 2015
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In this incredibly penetrating talk, Krishnamurti describes the psychological pressures of life and how these pressures affect right living: ''We were saying that any form of pressure on the brain affects our whole way of life. We were also saying that this pressure affects our activities, our attitudes, our character, and our way of living. The pressure--economic, social, ethical, and religious--invariably distorts not only our actions but the quality of the brain ... ideals affect, oppress, and act as pressure upon our daily life. Is it possible not to have any ideals but only deal with actually what is? --then there is no pressure whatsoever. Krishnamurti goes on to say that, unless the mind is free of pressure, there is no new way of living. He states that this insight on freedom requires a great deal of investigation into the whole nature and movement of pressure.
Thought sustains fear and pleasure
Berkeley 1969 - Public Talk 2
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
Ljudbok
Engelska, 2015
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"Thought sustains fear and pleasure - 4 February 1969 • To understand relationship and to end the conflict in it is our entire problem.• Can man live at peace, within himself and outwardly?• In relationship one becomes aware of the actual state of oneself.• The man that has no sense of fear of any kind is really a free man, a peacefulman.• What is fear?• Can thought be silent?• Conduct becomes virtuous only when thought doesn’t cultivate what itconsiders virtue.• How is it possible to look at the sunset without thought weaving pleasure orpain around it?Questions from the audience followed the talk."
Life, death and love
Berkeley 1969 - Public Talk 3
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
Ljudbok
Engelska, 2015
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"Life, death and love - 5 February 1969• What is it that we call living?• How can a confused mind find somebody who will tell the truth?• When there is no comparison, no opposite, you are actually faced with the factof anger, then is there anger?• Without knowing what sorrow is, understanding its nature and structure, weshall not know what love is.• What is it to die?• One is never afraid of the unknown; one is afraid of the known coming to anend.• It is only the mind that has shed all its burdens every day, ended every problem,that is an innocent mind. Then life has a different meaning altogether. Then one can find out what love is."
True revolution
Berkeley 1969 - Public Talk 4
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
Ljudbok
Engelska, 2015
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"True revolution - 6 February 1969.• What is a religious mind?• Must one go to an expert to tell us what the unconscious is or can one find it foroneself?• Through the negation of disorder, order comes into being.• It is only the meditative mind that can find out, not the curious mind or themind that is everlastingly searching.• To meditate implies to see very clearly. It is not possible to see clearly whenthere is space between the observer and the thing observed.• It is only in silence that there is quite a different dimension. You have to find outfor yourself; nobody can open the door for you."
Does self-knowledge come through searching?
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 1
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Engelska, 2015
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"1. Does self-knowledge come through searching? - 16 July 1949• What is it that most of us are seeking?• Does clarity come through searching and trying to find out what others say?• Can incessant search and longing give you the extraordinary sense of reality orcreative being that comes when you really understand yourself?• Without knowing your background and the substance of your thought, whereit comes from, surely your search is utterly futile and your action has nomeaning.• The responsibility for any action depends on ourselves, not on others.• Q: Do I have to be at any special level of consciousness to understand you?• Q: The movement of life is experienced in relationship to people and to ideas."
Without self-knowledge there cannot be complete action
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 10
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"10. Without self-knowledge there cannot be complete action - 14 August 1949• Can we act without ideation?• Immortality is not an idea. It is something beyond ideation, thought and thebundle of memory which is all the ‘me’.• Love is not a thought process.• Q: What place has criticism in relationship?• Q: When you speak of timelessness, it seems you must mean something besidesa sequence of events. Do you perhaps mean that by knowing what part of you is eternal, then time no longer becomes a means to an end, or a means to progress?• Q: Is there a gulf, an interval of any duration, between my perceiving something, and being or realizing it?• Q: You often speak of living, experiencing, and yet being as nothing. What is this state of being as nothing consciously?"
Why do we want to dominate or be subservient to another?
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 11
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"Why do we want to dominate or be subservient to another? - 20 August 1949 • Why is it that we dominate, consciously or unconsciously?• To submit oneself to another is the negative form of domination. We shall notbe able to solve this problem by thinking in terms of opposites.• Is not domination a process of isolation, which denies relationship?• Can there be relationship between two people if there is any sense ofdomination or submissiveness?• Q: Is not the experience of the past a help towards freedom and right action inthe present?• Q: Is my believing in survival after death a hindrance to liberation through self-knowledge?• Q: Why is it certain individuals identify themselves with you or with your stateof being and thereby gain authority for themselves?"
Why do we seek a method or technique?
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 11
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"Why do we seek a method or technique? - 21 August 1949 • The problems of life do not demand a method, because they are so vital and alive that if we approach with a method we totally misunderstand and don’t adequately meet that problem.• Where there is efficiency there is ruthlessness.• The means and the end are not separate.• Reality or God is something that cannot come by a technique, a means, orthrough a long, determined practice and discipline.• Aloneness implies no means. You are not alone when you have a means.• Q: What is the right relationship, if any, between the individual and thecollective, the mass?• Q: What is the significance of pain and suffering?"
Simplicity comes into being when there is freedom from the desire to achieve.
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 13
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"implicity comes into being when there is freedom from the desire to achieve - 27 August 1949• One who is sincere can never be simple because he who is trying to be sincerealways has the desire to pattern or approximate himself to an idea.• Self-knowledgecanbediscoveredmorefully,deeply,widely,onlywhenthereispassive awareness, which is not the exertion of will.• In the search for self-knowledge we get caught in self-consciousness. Beingcaught we make the thing in which one is caught the most important thing.• To go beyond self-consciousness there must be freedom from the desire toachieve a result, because the achievement of a result is what the mind wants.• Q: Would you please explain what you mean by dying daily?• Q: How does a truth when repeated become a lie? What really is a lie?• Q: I think I can help, but whatever I say or do to another is interpreted asinterference and as domineering. Why does this happen to me?• Q: What is aloneness? Is it a mystical state?"
Why do we seek a method or technique?
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 12
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"Why do we seek a method or technique? - 21 August 1949.• The problems of life do not demand a method, because they are so vital and alive that if we approach with a method we totally misunderstand and don’t adequately meet that problem.• Where there is efficiency there is ruthlessness.• The means and the end are not separate.• Reality or God is something that cannot come by a technique, a means, orthrough a long, determined practice and discipline.• Aloneness implies no means. You are not alone when you have a means.• Q: What is the right relationship, if any, between the individual and thecollective, the mass?• Q: What is the significance of pain and suffering?"
Relationship has significance only when it is a process of self-revelation
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"Relationship has significance only when it is a process of self-revelation - 17 July 1949• Where there is authority there can be no discovery of something new.• Relationship based on an idea cannot be a self-revealing process.• Self-knowledge is understood, uncovered and its process revealed throughrelationship.• Is it possible to love without the interference of the mind?• When the mind becomes supreme, all-important, then there can be noaffection.• Q: What is that thinking that must come to an end? What do you mean bythinking and thought?"
If we had no belief what would happen to us?
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 3
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"If we had no belief what would happen to us? - 23 July 1949• Without self-knowledge we cannot go beyond the self-projected illusions of themind.• It’s only in relationship that one can know oneself as one is.• A mind that is filled with beliefs, dogmas, assertions and quotations is an uncreative, repetitive mind.• Can we look at ourselves without beliefs?• A mind that is quiet because it understands fear and understands itself iscreative.• Q: Our mind knows only the known. What is it in us that drives us to find theunknown, reality, or God?"
Simplicity cannot be found unless one is free inwardly
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 4
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"Simplicity cannot be found unless one is free inwardly - 24 July 1949• Only when the mind and heart are really simple is one able to solve the many problems that confront us.• A religious man is he who is inwardly simple.• Q: I have been a member of various religious organizations but you havedestroyed them all. I am utterly bored and work because hunger forces me toit. I am afraid to commit suicide. What on earth am I to do?• Q: What have you to say to a person who, in quiet moments, sees the truth ofwhat you say, who has a longing to keep awake but who finds himself repeatedly lost in a sea of impulse and small desires?"
How is one to be aware?
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 5
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"How is one to be aware? - 30 July 1949• Does the understanding of ourselves demand a specialization? • What is it that we need capacity for?• How is one to be capable of meeting life as a whole?• How are we aware of something?• To understand relationship there must be an awareness which is not aggressively positive.• Q: All religions have insisted on some kind of self-discipline to moderate the instincts of the brute in man. You seem to imply that such disciplines are a hindrance to the realization of God. Who is right in this matter?"
To understand 'what is' there must be no prejudice
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 7
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"To understand ‘what is’ there must be no prejudice - 6 August 1949.• To understand reality, or for that immensity to come into being, one mustunderstand the process of one’s own thinking.• How is it possible to go into the deeper layers of consciousness?• If we do not name then perhaps it’s possible to go into the deeper layers ofconsciousness.• To see things as they are requires enormous alertness of mind.• Q: I understand intellectually that I am the resentment and hatred I feel, but Icannot cope with it. Can you show me a way?"
Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 8
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"8. Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation - 7 August 1949.• There is no mind without idea, thought and verbalization.• There is no experiencer and the experience; there is only a state ofexperiencing.• One cannot think about immortality. If one can live in the state of onlyexperiencing then there is a state in which ideation has stopped altogether.• Is it possible to have direct experience of that which is not thinkable and whichcannot be put into words?• Q: Is there a way of knowing what is the truth about myself, without illusion orself-deception?• Q: Is effort a necessary preliminary to tranquillity?• Q: I no longer suppress my thoughts and am I shocked by what sometimesarises. Can I be as bad as that?• Q: Why is it that certain undesirable conditions in oneself do not vanish as soon as they are observed?• Q: Is the artist or musician engaged in a futile thing?"
Ideals and Ambition
Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 8
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"Ideals and ambition - 13 August 1949• Q: In listening to you, I feel that the distinction or space between ideal andpractice is illusory. Is this so?• Q: I am free from ambition. Is there something wrong with me?"
Attention implies the total abandonment of the 'me.
Santa Monica 1971 - Public Talk 1
AvJiddu Krishnamurti
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"Attention implies the total abandonment of the ‘me’ - 6 March 1971 • Can the mind undergo a radical revolution?• How do you observe the world?• What solves our human problem is observing the whole process of ourselveswithout judging, condemning, translating or rejecting – just to observe.Question topics following the talk include: being disturbed in order to know, being confused, transcendental meditation."
Violence, pleasure and fear
Santa Monica 1971 - Public Talk 2
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"Violence, pleasure and fear - 7 March 1971• We have accepted violence as a way of life and yet at the same time we wantpeace.• Can one live a life in which there is no comparison at all?• Pleasure is the continuance of an experience that is never finished.• We are living in the past.• How can the conscious mind investigate the total hidden mind?"

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